Comments on: Refurbished & Reconditioned Table Saws: Dewalt, Bosch, Delta, Makita, and More http://www.oneprojectcloser.com/tools/tables-saws-refurbished-dewalt-bosch-skil-porter-cable-makita-price/ Home improvement and related topics from four evening and weekend warriors striving for the perfect homes... Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:00:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Fred http://www.oneprojectcloser.com/tools/tables-saws-refurbished-dewalt-bosch-skil-porter-cable-makita-price/#comment-1839 Fred Sat, 05 Jul 2008 19:51:53 +0000 http://www.oneprojectcloser.com/?p=392#comment-1839 Josh -- Took me a while to get back to this because I wanted to address the post BEFORE I responded here. You're right: Amazon's quoted retail prices are outlandish on some of these tools. I did further research against each tool and found the non-refurb price available on Amazon and other retailers and quoted it here instead of Amazon's quoted retail price. Most saws still show significant savings, and 1 in particular (the nicest dewalt) has substantial savings. Since Amazon sells tools for vendors, its probably a case where the vendor is quoting the highest possible price they can to make the savings look huge. In the case of the Bosch you reference, I've updated the price to reflect the cost of buying a new version of that Bosch without a stand (which was also avail. on Amazon). My guess is that Bosch is really taking people who buy the stand separately. I think at the price quoted I'd buy the refurb and build a universal stand, so that I could also use it for a compound mitre, etc. I don't have much storage space for large tools, so I prefer to buy without stands; but I recognize that others with the space would want the stands too. In this case, buying new makes the most sense. Jon - Good luck on your decision. Glad this post raised your awareness about Amazon and tools. Buying @ Lowes or Depot is always a last resort for us on large tool purchases - it's significantly cheaper to buy online. Josh — Took me a while to get back to this because I wanted to address the post BEFORE I responded here. You’re right: Amazon’s quoted retail prices are outlandish on some of these tools. I did further research against each tool and found the non-refurb price available on Amazon and other retailers and quoted it here instead of Amazon’s quoted retail price. Most saws still show significant savings, and 1 in particular (the nicest dewalt) has substantial savings. Since Amazon sells tools for vendors, its probably a case where the vendor is quoting the highest possible price they can to make the savings look huge.

In the case of the Bosch you reference, I’ve updated the price to reflect the cost of buying a new version of that Bosch without a stand (which was also avail. on Amazon). My guess is that Bosch is really taking people who buy the stand separately. I think at the price quoted I’d buy the refurb and build a universal stand, so that I could also use it for a compound mitre, etc. I don’t have much storage space for large tools, so I prefer to buy without stands; but I recognize that others with the space would want the stands too. In this case, buying new makes the most sense.

Jon - Good luck on your decision. Glad this post raised your awareness about Amazon and tools. Buying @ Lowes or Depot is always a last resort for us on large tool purchases - it’s significantly cheaper to buy online.

]]> By: Jon http://www.oneprojectcloser.com/tools/tables-saws-refurbished-dewalt-bosch-skil-porter-cable-makita-price/#comment-1678 Jon Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:40:16 +0000 http://www.oneprojectcloser.com/?p=392#comment-1678 Fred, Incredibly timely post! I was in dire need of a good table saw on Sunday, when I had to rip some studs in order to fir up a wall. Anyway, I spent an hour with an ooooollllldddd Craftsman saw of my Grandfather's and swore I'd buy my own. When I went to Lowe's, everything was close to $500. I looked at the DeWalt DW744X, Woodtek 148-271, and Bosch TS300. The prices from Amazon.com are all $100+ cheaper than everything at Lowe's. As for refurb, I have a TON of refurb equipment and have never (knock on wood) had any problems. However I have had problems on BRAND NEW stuff, including a DeWalt hammerdrill and a jigsaw. So, in my experience, refurb is very reliable. Great post. I'm going to debate which Table to buy tonight! My only reservation is trying to get one with a nice rolling stand, to make it easier to move. The Bosch TS3000 had an incredible system, but it also had the most incredible price! -Jon Fred,

Incredibly timely post! I was in dire need of a good table saw on Sunday, when I had to rip some studs in order to fir up a wall. Anyway, I spent an hour with an ooooollllldddd Craftsman saw of my Grandfather’s and swore I’d buy my own.

When I went to Lowe’s, everything was close to $500. I looked at the DeWalt DW744X, Woodtek 148-271, and Bosch TS300. The prices from Amazon.com are all $100+ cheaper than everything at Lowe’s.

As for refurb, I have a TON of refurb equipment and have never (knock on wood) had any problems. However I have had problems on BRAND NEW stuff, including a DeWalt hammerdrill and a jigsaw. So, in my experience, refurb is very reliable.

Great post. I’m going to debate which Table to buy tonight! My only reservation is trying to get one with a nice rolling stand, to make it easier to move. The Bosch TS3000 had an incredible system, but it also had the most incredible price!

-Jon

]]> By: Josh http://www.oneprojectcloser.com/tools/tables-saws-refurbished-dewalt-bosch-skil-porter-cable-makita-price/#comment-1676 Josh Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:52:54 +0000 http://www.oneprojectcloser.com/?p=392#comment-1676 Good summary of the reconditioned saws on Amazon, Fred. I would feel confident buying reconditioned tools, but I'm not sure why Amazon quotes such outlandish retail prices to calculate their "savings." The $952 listed as retail for the Bosch 4100 (the saw I've had my eye on) is nowhere near the $600 or so retail price I've seen at Home Depot and Sears. To continue with the Bosch example, Amazon lists a new Bosch 4100 for $599 with free shipping, and the refurbished 4100 for $439 + $10 shipping. But the refurbished saw doesn't include the $149 collapsible stand that comes with the new saw. So, comparing apples to apples, you can get a new Bosch 4100 for $599 or a refurbished 4100 for $439 + $10 + 149 = $598. For other saws the savings calculation may work out better, but in this case the only people who get a deal with the refurbished saw are those who don't want to buy a stand. I had really hoped there would be greater savings by going refurbished. For me, the search for a deal continues. Good summary of the reconditioned saws on Amazon, Fred. I would feel confident buying reconditioned tools, but I’m not sure why Amazon quotes such outlandish retail prices to calculate their “savings.” The $952 listed as retail for the Bosch 4100 (the saw I’ve had my eye on) is nowhere near the $600 or so retail price I’ve seen at Home Depot and Sears. To continue with the Bosch example, Amazon lists a new Bosch 4100 for $599 with free shipping, and the refurbished 4100 for $439 + $10 shipping. But the refurbished saw doesn’t include the $149 collapsible stand that comes with the new saw. So, comparing apples to apples, you can get a new Bosch 4100 for $599 or a refurbished 4100 for $439 + $10 + 149 = $598. For other saws the savings calculation may work out better, but in this case the only people who get a deal with the refurbished saw are those who don’t want to buy a stand. I had really hoped there would be greater savings by going refurbished. For me, the search for a deal continues.

]]> By: Jennifer http://www.oneprojectcloser.com/tools/tables-saws-refurbished-dewalt-bosch-skil-porter-cable-makita-price/#comment-1664 Jennifer Fri, 27 Jun 2008 04:32:01 +0000 http://www.oneprojectcloser.com/?p=392#comment-1664 I haven't purchased a refurbished tool, but it sounds like a great idea! I buy them used a lot... but those prices are pretty close to used prices and they've been refurbished. Seems like a good deal! I haven’t purchased a refurbished tool, but it sounds like a great idea! I buy them used a lot… but those prices are pretty close to used prices and they’ve been refurbished. Seems like a good deal!

]]>